Bye Bye Wife-FI

A few weeks ago my wife FIRE’d from her job. I asked her if she wanted to do a guest post about it, as I guess that’s a thing in the FI space. She laughed and said something to the effect of “Dammit JSD, I’m a spreadsheet nerd, not a writer!“. 

Since this is kind of a big deal, I ended up interviewing her about it, and then running the post by her for accuracy. Since I’m a self-centered person who has to constantly fight the tendency to only care about myself, a bunch of my feelings about the whole thing are placed throughout. Long time readers, you’re used to that shit by now. Here we go!

Oh yeah, none of this is like a direct quote or anything. That sounds like way too much work.

Me: So, like…why did you leave your job?

Wife: Because it sucked.

OK, that’s not exactly what she said. But pretty much sums it up. Let’s try again.

Wife: I got to the point where I was constantly stressed about work, and it was bleeding over into our family life. I noticed I was shorter with the kids, and was dreading going into each meeting-filled day with minimal actual engineering work. This was despite having gone to part-time; I got put on a big, years-long project which though interesting in theory, had major political BS that sucked the life out of me. The role ended up needing a babysitter for action item lists, following up in yet more meetings and requiring more hours than I wanted to do. I could have done fewer hours, but my job would have been condensed to literally meetings and nothing else. I could have requested to get off the project too, but that would have been super weird politically, and that didn’t sit well with me. And I was already burned out on work stuff by now anyway. 

Moving to Eagleton was another big thing. Our kids’ school now starts an hour earlier than our old district, and we can bike with them to and from school. The biking is fun, but since our pre-schooler and 2nd grader have staggered start times, it ends up being about a forty-minute round trip for both drop off and pickup. Plus with the earlier end time, once we got home I’d probably have to put in another hour or two of work. I really wanted to do that as much as possible, but knew I’d be super stressed out the whole ride thinking about work. I really didn’t want to do that. I’ve been realizing all the meetings aren’t as important as being mentally present with my kids.

Finally, there is a lot of other stuff I want to explore. I’ve been watching volunteering opportunities pop up over the years that I wanted to do. I’ve been interested to see if I can start my own bookkeeping business. I want to spend more time involved at the kids’ schools like subbing or volunteering there. I know some people do this on the side, but I’m so intellectually drained after work that I lose all motivation to do this stuff. I got to the point recently where I decided to take days off work just to substitute teach (talk about opportunity cost there) and realized if I’m to that point, I might as well just quit to actually do it and the million other things on my to-do list.

Then there’s the money. We have enough to live our current lifestyle, though we won’t be buying a Tesla (wife here: JSD’s words, not mine. He’s the one who wants to sell half our savings for a Tesla!!) anytime soon. So why keep trying to work at a job that is stressing me out, making it difficult for me to be a parent who is present, and preventing me from trying other stuff I want to do? Especially when I don’t actually need to?

Me: That sounds about right. I love and support you. Huzzah! Also, this loss of income (that we don’t actually need, but would allow us to buy shiny pointless shit) stresses me the fuck out. I’m going back to work.

Wife: Yeah, bet no one saw that coming, lol.

Me: Just kidding, but not really. Think I will go back to grad school though, so I can eventually do work I want to do. Hey, look at that, I hijacked this post about you. See, I promised you my selfish human tendencies couldn’t help bleeding through. Let’s leave that rabbit hole for another day.

Wife: K.

-end interview-

There you have it, my wife left her job. I’m pretty excited for her, and stoked to spend more time with her. Her last two weeks there were stupid stressful, as her company was scrambling to get all her stuff handed off to other people. She ended up not completely leaving; they convinced her to stay on the payroll and help occasionally train new people. Should be a few hours a month, and it leaves the door open if she sees a project she wants to work on.

We’ve now moved from a Wife FI/Coast FI-ish lifestyle, and into a mostly FI thing. Though I’m still working my part-time EP gig, that’s not enough to completely cover our expenses. And while my wife does plan to do something which will probably make money, I’m hoping she’ll chill for more than a few months before trying to crush it or whatev. So we’ll likely end up drawing down our investments to cover our expenses. Scary, and exciting! That feels surrounding all that would be a good post; we’ll see if I get around to writing it. 

After leaving, she basically channeled our cats and napped a lot. Definitely seems more relaxed. Camping helped her decompress a bit, and she enjoyed the week off with our kids before school started much more than she has in the past. I did too!

On the first day of school, we watched the classic period piece Predator, which she had never seen. I think her life has been changed forever by said viewing, as anyone can identify with the timeless message that beautiful cinematic masterpiece conveys.

Aren’t we all just trying to get to the choppa? 

Like Dutch, my wife slogged through the jungle of corporate bullshit and battled the giant alien that is the existential struggle to define one’s existence outside of work. She jumped in slow motion away from the explosion triggered by the alien’s demise, emerging victorious to claim her freedom.

Yeah, that was definitely a metaphorical stretch. But fun, right? 

Stick around. 

Let’s see what happens next!

13 Comments

  1. veronica

    Hey, please convey my congrats to your wife. She’s going to love giving the middle finger to the corporate BS.

    Yeah, drawing down the portfolio is super scary. Don’t beat yourself up if you start freaking. It took me a good 2 to 3 years before the panic attack subsided. At least you have the children to distract you. Focus on that. Eventually you’ll relax about the money. Trust me.

    • escapingavalon

      Thanks, I’ll tell her!

      Good advice, I appreciate it. I will attempt to not beat myself up, but would settle for shortening the distance between freaking out and relaxing. These last couple years of sort-FI have somewhat helped with that, plus the writing seems to help. It’s amusing to look back; usually I’m like “I thought that?? That guy should chill out.”

    • Most excellent, and congrats to the both of you. I’ve been trying to get my wife to consider going part-time at her job, or leaving altogether. Nothing doing, she retorts. She still thinks this whole FIRE thing is so much smoke and mirrors, tho I have started to move the needle on that. This all said, she’s one of the lucky few who not only likes working, but likes her employer and job. So, there’s that.

      • escapingavalon

        Thanks! I could see why she wouldn’t want to leave. If you like working there and they treat you well, you’d really have to have some greater interest to pull you away from such a job.

  2. Sam Townsend

    My wife retired 2 years ago after some health issues made her question her priorities. She’s been living her best life since. It’s been wonderful to see her mental health improve so much, and after a few months, she found daily patterns that make her happy. It’s been so cool watching her just be happy not working that it got me thinking (and planning) how to join her someday soon. I’ve never been a FIRE fanatic (I’m 55, that ship sailed), but the scary of idea of not working til I’m nearly dead is not so scary any more.

    • escapingavalon

      Glad your wife has been able to live her best life, hope you can join her sooner than later!

  3. Sarita

    Yay, well done Mrs. JSD! Although if you‘re JSD, maybe she is JSDW? But talk about a quality-of-life win. Hey, if you have the option to leave the job that‘s bleeding you dry and sucking the life out of you, then do it! I‘m not gonna YOLO anyone, but there‘s something to be said about not wasting your precious time, precious moments with kids in these early years. If we scoff at wasting money, why don’t we scoff even more about wasting time? At least money can be replaced.

    • escapingavalon

      Thanks!! So true about our odd perception of time and money. Perhaps we’re not as conscious of lost time because the loss is harder to define? It’s easier to see numbers go down in an account, or feel a lighter wallet. But time seems to be the thing we miss much later, when we have a chance to reflect.
      I guess those countdown apps and calendars are one way to make the loss more real, but I think I’ve got enough anxiety as it is, lol. Having more time now does weirdly make me appreciate it better. Back in the busy days time just slipped away without so much thought, but these days we have the luxury of being more deliberate. Definitely thankful for that.

  4. Brian

    Congratulations. Her job sounds a lot like mine. Kind of slowly over ten or so years, then very much all of a sudden, it was just time to get out. I can understand the nervousness especially just after the recent move, but the great thing about having a big chunk of change is that even *if* you someday need to replace some income, there’s just no urgency.

    • escapingavalon

      Thanks.
      It was interesting to watch from the outside. It seemed to me like her job was ok most of the time, but the stupidity slowly built, as did her frustration. Suppose we were lucky it compounded at a rate slower than the market.
      You’re right about the lack of urgency. I was much more nervous when I first retired, but after getting comfortable with the loss of income for a few years this big change felt less scary. We’ll both probably continue to get paid work, and at some point it might actually cover our expenses again. But there’s no rush. And I guess there’s no need. I really can’t believe how lucky we are.

  5. veronica

    Hey. I just got back from CMTO. I met a person there who attended your mental health talk at CMMW. He said you did great! Thought you might like the feedback, even if it is a bit late.

    Later.

    • escapingavalon

      Thanks! I do like the feedback 🙂 How’d you like CMTO? The people who run that were at CMMW, they were pretty awesome.

      • veronica

        Well I’ve only ever been to CMTO, so I don’t really have anything else for comparison. This was my second time attending and my take away was – you get out of it what you put into it. The ‘regulars’ keep saying that they attend not for the information, but for the relationships. I’m beginning to understand what they mean. I’m slow to open up to people, so it will take me another camp or two to get there. Apart from that, I really appreciate the Canadian content. A lot of personal finance info available on the net is from the American perspective, which is useful for the general philosophy/ideas stuff, but it’s also nice to have people to discuss the nuances and quirks of Canadian investing / retirement / taxation situations.

        You should come and give your talk on mental health and FI at the next CMTO. I think that will prompt some very interesting discussions.

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